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TiCam
08-16-07, 04:44 PM
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The women are too afraid and ashamed to show their faces or have their real names used. They have been driven to sell their bodies to put food on the table for their children -- for as little as $8 a day.
"People shouldn't criticize women, or talk badly about them," says 37-year-old Suha as she adjusts the light colored scarf she wears these days to avoid extremists who insist women cover themselves. "They all say we have lost our way, but they never ask why we had to take this path."
A mother of three, she wears light makeup, a gold pendant of Iraq around her neck, and an unexpected air of elegance about her.
"I don't have money to take my kid to the doctor. I have to do anything that I can to preserve my child, because I am a mother," she says, explaining why she prostitutes herself.
Anger and frustration rise in her voice as she speaks.
"No matter what else I may be, no matter how off the path I may be, I am a mother!" Watch a woman describe turning to prostitution to "save my child" »
Her clasped hands clench and unclench nervously. Suha's husband thinks that she is cleaning houses when she goes away.
So does Karima's family.
"At the start I was cleaning homes, but I wasn't making much. No matter how hard I worked it just wasn't enough," she says.
Karima, clad in all black, adds, "My husband died of lung cancer nine months ago and left me with nothing."
She has five children, ages 8 to 17. Her eldest son could work, but she's too afraid for his life to let him go into the streets, preferring to sacrifice herself than risk her child.
She was solicited the first time when she was cleaning an office.
"They took advantage of me," she says softly. "At first I rejected it, but then I realized I have to do it."
Both Suha and Karima have clients that call them a couple times a week. Other women resort to trips to the market to find potential clients. Or they flag down vehicles.
Prostitution is a choice more and more Iraqi women are making just to survive.
"It's increasing," Suha says. "I found this 'thing' through my friend, and I have another friend in the same predicament as mine. Because of the circumstance, she is forced to do such things."
Violence, increased cost of living, and lack of any sort of government aid leave women like these with few other options, according to humanitarian workers.
"At this point there is a population of women who have to sell their bodies in order to keep their children alive," says Yanar Mohammed, head and founder of the Organization for Women's Freedom in Iraq. "It's a taboo that no one is speaking about."
She adds, "There is a huge population of women who were the victims of war who had to sell their bodies, their souls and they lost it all. It crushes us to see them, but we have to work on it and that's why we started our team of women activists."
Her team pounds the streets of Baghdad looking for these victims often too humiliated to come forward.
"Most of the women that we find at hospitals [who] have tried to commit suicide" have been involved in prostitution, said Basma Rahim, a member of Mohammed's team.
The team's aim is to compile information on specific cases and present it to Iraq's political parties -- to have them, as Mohammed puts it, "come tell us what [they] are ... going to do about this."
Rahim tells the heartbreaking story of one woman they found who lives in a room with three of her children: "She has sex while her three children are in the room, but she makes them stand in separate corners."
According to Rahim and Mohammed, most of the women they encounter say they are driven to prostitution by a desperate desire for survival in the dangerously violent and unforgiving circumstances in Iraq.
"They took this path but they are not pleased," Rahim says.
Karima says when she sees her children with food on the table, she is able to convince herself that it's worth it. "Everything is for the children. They are the beauty in life and, without them, we cannot live."
But she says, "I would never allow my daughter to do this. I would rather marry her off at 13 than have her go through this."
Karima's last happy memory is of her late husband, when they were a family and able to shoulder the hardships of life in today's Iraq together.
Suha says as a young girl she dreamed of being a doctor, with her mom boasting about her potential in that career. Life couldn't have taken her further from that dream.
"It's not like we were born into this, nor was it ever in my blood," she says.
What she does for her family to survive now eats away at her. "I lay on my pillow and my brain is spinning, and it all comes back to me as if I am watching a movie."

intruder
08-16-07, 08:47 PM
this is sad

TiCam
08-16-07, 09:25 PM
this is sad Bush and Cheney will have to answer to the Higher Power.

tilezanj
08-16-07, 09:30 PM
Bush and Cheney will have to answer to the Higher Power.

why them? Iraqis are killing Iraqis in a sectarian war. They've got to put their shit together. Before Bush and Cheney there was Saddham Hussein and life was no better. Those Iraqis had a chance to have a normal country after Saddham's topple. They've opted for the extremist path.

So wouldn't be fair not to look at them without putting some blame on them.

Perhaps Bush and Cheney should have never invaded Iraq, but there again same people writing here whould have qualified them all names for not doing anything against Saddham's murderous spree TERRITORIALLY and NATIONALLY.

You're damn if you do and you'r damn if you don't.

About time we start shifting blames where it supposed to be shifted. I say, those Iraquis bear all the blame.

TiCam
08-16-07, 09:36 PM
My dear, I do not want to start any discussion, but know that under Saddham a mother wouldn't have to prostitute herself in order to feed her family. The economical situation was much better before Bush started the war. Life was more appealing if you are not into politic and everything start to go down with the American invasion. PERIOD

tilezanj
08-16-07, 09:41 PM
Economical can NEVER be good with fear. Fear of random executions. And bullshit. It did not matter if you were not in politics. Go inform yourself about the mass graves, the gaz massacres, the athletes being punished, the summary executions, the tortures etc... etc ....

TiCam
08-16-07, 09:43 PM
REPEATING: My dear, I do not want to start any discussion, but know that under Saddham a mother wouldn't have to prostitute herself in order to feed her family. The economical situation was much better before Bush started the war.

tilezanj
08-16-07, 09:44 PM
At least, try to inform yourself, please. Then you can stop REPEATING

intruder
08-16-07, 09:54 PM
Bush and Cheney will have to answer to the Higher Power. With all due respect I'd rather see them suffer with my own eyes right here on earth.
God tends to have pitty when people show remorse. How many people have you seen do dirt in their lifetime only to "find Jesus" when they get old :dry:

TiCam
08-16-07, 10:05 PM
Intruder,

Obviously, you are as upset as I am with that war situation in Irak and for a good reason.

tilezanj
08-16-07, 10:12 PM
Enfin, those are the views of people with a short vision.

this is what the media is showing now a day, but believe it life was no better before

I wanted to add that during Saddham, women did not have to prostitute themselves. They were being raped, a favorite pastime instituted by one of Saddham's sons himself


The situation is too complex in Iraq to put the blame on someone. If the media was pumping every day those news of abuses from Iraq before the war, you would have been the first one to cry horror, do something!!

intruder
08-16-07, 10:54 PM
why them? Iraqis are killing Iraqis in a sectarian war. They've got to put their shit together. Before Bush and Cheney there was Saddham Hussein and life was no better. Those Iraqis had a chance to have a normal country after Saddham's topple. They've opted for the extremist path.

So wouldn't be fair not to look at them without putting some blame on them.

Perhaps Bush and Cheney should have never invaded Iraq, but there again same people writing here whould have qualified them all names for not doing anything against Saddham's murderous spree TERRITORIALLY and NATIONALLY.

You're damn if you do and you'r damn if you don't.

About time we start shifting blames where it supposed to be shifted. I say, those Iraquis bear all the blame.

You sir have issues.

Sure Saddam should not have invaded Kuwait but once he was kicked out of there they should not have had all these tough sanctions on the damn country because you hate its leader. All the sudden you have an entire nation suffering because of its leader's mistake and you putting an embargo on them is making the situation worse.
Restrict their ability to rearm themselves but dont stop their economic growth. And that is what this is about. Their economy is in ruin so therefore these mothers do the unthinkable to feed their children.

Then Comes the Bush and Dick bombing the country setting them even further back. Now not only must they deal with the economic problems they already had but all the sudden a civil war breaks out where different sect that Saddam was able to keep in check are killing eachother.

Now are you keeping score? Let's add them up shall we;

Already having economic issues because of they imposed sanctions that were too tough.

Get bombed and most of your infrastructure is in ruins

Get your dignity taken away because G.I.'s must now search your ass everywhere you go.

Now you have a civil war on your hands.

yeah you're right. Bush/the U.S. have nothing to do with this :rrolleyes:

tilezanj
08-16-07, 11:08 PM
in order to understand my point, you would need to have some finesse and some notion of world economy, oil prices, recession and a madman that cannot be controlled and proved to be a major destabilizer.

No one wants to see 20.00 at the gaz station. The Iraqis had a problem, we had one. Now the Iraqis need to figure it out themselves. We offered to help, they prefer to bomb themselves.

Since you seem to lack those, I will confine my answer to below.



You sir have issues.

Sure Saddam should not have invaded Kuwait but once he was kicked out of there they should not have had all these tough sanctions on the damn country because you hate its leader.



All the sudden you have an entire nation suffering because of its leader's mistake and you putting an embargo on them is making the situation worse.

Restrict their ability to rearm themselves but dont stop their economic growth.

and how do you propose to do that without troops when he is evading inspections?

And that is what this is about. Their economy is in ruin so therefore these mothers do the unthinkable to feed their children.

I guess for you it was ok to be systematically raped.

Then Comes the Bush and Dick bombing the country setting them even further back. Now not only must they deal with the economic problems they already had but all the sudden a civil war breaks out where different sect that Saddam was able to keep in check are killing eachother.

Now are you keeping score? Let's add them up shall we;

Already having economic issues because of they imposed sanctions that were too tough.

Get bombed and most of your infrastructure is in ruins

Get your dignity taken away because G.I.'s must now search your ass everywhere you go.

Now you have a civil war on your hands.

This is Iraq. Would have happened no matter what. And you know what? Perhaps the American presence is making it lesser than it could be.


yeah you're right. Bush/the U.S. have nothing to do with this :rrolleyes:

intruder
08-16-07, 11:40 PM
in order to understand my point, you would need to have some finesse and some notion of world economy, oil prices, recession and a madman that cannot be controlled and proved to be a major destabilizer.

No one wants to see 20.00 at the gaz station. The Iraqis had a problem, we had one. Now the Iraqis need to figure it out themselves. We offered to help, they prefer to bomb themselves.

Since you seem to lack those, I will confine my answer to below.
and how do you propose to do that without troops when he is evading inspections? When it was all said and done they found NOTHING. And from where he was how was Saddam affecting Gas prices at the time that W and Dickie decided he was deepthroating AlQaida?:sphuh: I dont recall this gas being so high before he got dethroned either. Let me knoe is i missed something
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I guess for you it was ok to be systematically raped. :sphuh: Dont believe all that CNN tells you. Speak to Iraquis that have lived under the regime directly.
Being Haitian you should know that Everything CNN or FoxNews reports isnt always the truth. Ever seen some of the reports the run about Haiti. Nuff Said
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This is Iraq. Would have happened no matter what. And you know what? Perhaps the American presence is making it lesser than it could be. had we kept our nose out of it it would not have been our problem now would it. Now we in it knee deep and bitching about why they cant handle it or as you said "figure it out for themselves"?:sphuh:
LMAO


Sorry junior. I find this administration disgusting for the way they are wasting human lives in a war they should not have been in in the first place. I have a lot of friends in the millitary that are either dead or waiting to be dead in this bullshit. Thank God i got out this b!tch right on time.

Anyway, lets just leave it at that because you're not going to say anything that i havent heard before and we're not going to agree. I have to go home now.

Peace

tilezanj
08-16-07, 11:46 PM
Dont believe all that CNN tells you.
Thank you for pointing it out.

This article that you are writing about, by the way is from BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- :sdrolleyes:

Got you! You were in the army. That explains it all kiddo.

Like you said ... peace.

Al Saqr
08-19-07, 03:43 AM
That's really sad...
Et c'est encore plus triste de voir que Tilezanj ne réagit pas du tout à cette horreur et qu'il préfère s'occuper d'autre chose...
Peut-on penser qu'il aurait été un des premiers clients ?

karizmua
08-20-07, 05:07 PM
Tilezanj lan se yon ti bat ko! Its unfortunate the women has to sell their body and soul to survive and frustating to know that all this could have been prevented.

Al Saqr
08-20-07, 05:41 PM
Tilezanj lan se yon ti bat ko!
Agreed. Le voilà :
:sdhissyfit:

tilezanj
08-20-07, 08:42 PM
Agreed. Le voilà :
:sdhissyfit:

Relax, I am going to take a break from forums. I got a gun loaded in my head forcing me to write this. I am at Lionel's house and made a mistake twice to use his PC to post and use his name. Now I am getting hell. So long people before "my friend" bans me.

Al Saqr
08-21-07, 02:31 AM
Relax, I am going to take a break from forums. I got a gun loaded in my head forcing me to write this. I am at Lionel's house and made a mistake twice to use his PC to post and use his name. Now I am getting hell. So long people before "my friend" bans me.
:sdhmmm::sdhmmm: I didn't see your posts under Lionel's name...

And I hope you'll be back soon ! :sdcool:

karizmua
08-21-07, 03:20 PM
[Kariz shaking head in disbelief]

Al, you're not the only one.

Tilezanj, you've been a bad boy go wait for TiCam in her room :sdbiggrin: !

TiCam
08-21-07, 04:10 PM
[quote=karizmua;94033][Kariz shaking head in disbelief]

Al, you're not the only one.

Tilezanj, you've been a bad boy go wait for TiCam in her room :sdbiggrin: !/quote]
Kariz!!!!! Tilezanj in my room?! NEVER :sdno:
Ce derange mental, he might like the spanking and took it for something else. No way he's way too dangerous that man.

angegardien
08-24-07, 03:17 PM
Kariz!!!!! Tilezanj in my room?! NEVER :sdno:
Ce derange mental, he might like the spanking and took it for something else. No way he's way too dangerous that man.



TiCam, tilezanj a annonce son depart, tu deviens brave!!! Pou jan ou te peur neg sa :sdbiggrin:

Al Saqr
08-28-07, 04:42 AM
TiCam, tilezanj a annonce son depart, tu deviens brave!!! Pou jan ou te peur neg sa :sdbiggrin:
lol :D :D

karizmua
08-28-07, 02:23 PM
AG, where have you been?

Tilezanj, come back soon

TiCam
08-28-07, 02:45 PM
Tilezanj, come back soon Kariz, mande gras pou li. Poukisa ou pa PM Haitiwebs paske dapre Tilezanj li fache kont li paske li poste sou non li lel te vi-n lakay Haitiwebs.
Mwen minm mwen pap mande padon pou li, map kitel soufri yon ti kras.

karizmua
08-28-07, 03:23 PM
Kariz, mande gras pou li. Poukisa ou pa PM Haitiwebs paske dapre Tilezanj li fache kont li paske li poste sou non li lel te vi-n lakay Haitiwebs.
Mwen minm mwen pap mande padon pou li, map kitel soufri yon ti kras.

Did he really? I did not know they knew each other. I thought Tilezanj was joking.

TiCam
08-28-07, 05:07 PM
One time I was complaining about Tilezanj, Haitiwebs did say on the shoutbox that he's his crazy friend.

karizmua
08-29-07, 04:15 PM
One time I was complaining about Tilezanj, Haitiwebs did say on the shoutbox that he's his crazy friend.

:sdhmmm: Well, well, Haitiwebs fe'l gras non.