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Ten ways to insure Haiti?s future

• Start an adult literacy program; nearly half of Haiti?s adults are illiterate. This is unacceptable, with out knowledge we are nothing and we will stay nothing.
• Create tuition free schools and universities; only by guaranteeing an adequate education to the masses can we ensure the future success of our people.
• School lunch programs in all schools; with this even the poorest child will have at least one nutritious meal a day.
• Government sponsored public works projects (With the help of the World Bank); for example, building new roads, sewage systems, laying down power and telephone lines?..This will provide employment for many and help beautify the city thus helping the tourist industry
• Stop letting the US deport Haitian criminals to Haiti; they didn?t break our laws and we don?t need them.
• Only Haitians may own land in Haiti; this is a law that many countries have, it makes sure that the majority group of the country is always in power. Why hand over our land to foreigners and be treated like guest in our country.
• Foreigner investors must use a majority of Haitians for there work force in all levels of the company including management and upper management. This is one way to assure proper wages and working conditions.
• Foreign companies must create ?learning centers? to train and retrain all workers to guarantee workers the chance of upward mobility.
• All companies will be taxed appropriately; having money leave Haiti in the form of goods and not collecting some back in the form of tax will keep the country poor and kill the chance of any social service projects.
• Develop natural resources and keep the industries in Haitian hands; we have resources that other countries want, for example, bauxite, gold, amber, coffee, copper? to name a few. But the only we can make money on these is if we get them out of the ground or of the bush and into the hands of buyers.

These are just my thoughts I am sure you have many more and better one too. Lets hear them.

[aquasam]

I like the ideas very inspiring but I got a prob with the 1st: Adult litteracy. I'm not being selfish or careless but these aldults are going we should concentrate first on the kids: they are the future :5:

[longwayfromhome]

That is very true but the adults are the work force and an uneducated work force equals slave labor at slave wages

[sergo]

These are noble thoughts but not realistics.

Nothing can be accomplished in Haiti without the implementation of the discipline factor.

1-The teachers themselves need to be recycled

2-Where would you find the money to accomplish such a task?

3-School lunches... when you think that the help for hurricane Jeanne was being sold in the streets, it will be hard to implement anything for free in Haiti with that current (past, present and future, yes, future, will not change overnight because we wish so) corruption level.

4-Government cannot be involved in businesses. That is the surest way to entertain corruption. Basic services should be privatized. Companies understand that in order to make money, they must provide services. A private phone company can make money by adding lines and a power company would love to install additional meters. Those things are not understood by the morons who have been ruling Haiti.

5-Only Haitians to own land would set a very dangerous precedent for a country in dire needs. Let foreigners come and invest, like Club Med once did. Haitians had the land for 200 years, they have not done anything with it. Only countries with a certain per capita can afford such luxury. Le ou nan bezoin, ou pa ka fe angran.

6-Again you cannot dictate the rules to badly needed investors, specially you cannot offer qualified individuals. Recipe for disaster. One or two individuals who are able cannot make for an entire country.

7-Capitalism is here to make money, to exploit. That is the rule and we cannot change it. We should be smarter and exploit those big $$$ investors, not to impose unreasonable rules on them .

8-Taxes must be levied properly.

9-We havem't got any resources left, wake up.

My solution for Haiti?

We need a ferocious but progressist dictator, vide baton sou moun yo, give them some form of discipline. That cannot be accomplished without terror. Sad, very sad, but that is the truth, the way it is, not the way I want it or invented it.

[longwayfromhome]

Are you saying we need a new dictator! That is crazy!! Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely remember. You may be satisfied with a Haiti that is know for serving drinks with little umbrellas in them but I and many more think we can do better. When foreigners are aloud to come into a country with new terms bad things happen to that country. Think of the African nations whose populations see nothing from the investors that rape there lands of diamonds, oil, gold, and many other minerals. The reason it does not happen in other nations because they have rules that these investors have to abide by. This is not revolutionary this is how it is down all over the world. And how do you expect to exploit these big investors? There the ones with the money remember. If you honestly think that we can negotiate after there are establish in country you are dead wrong. And lastly we have many resource my friend; only a small percent of Haitian land has been mined. Oh one more thing feeding the children of our future is priority number one. The next generations are the leaders of tomorrow. Have more faith in our people, we all want the best but it has to be on a level playing field. Looking for hand out from and depending on other to support our economy is a very dangerous game.

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[sergo]

I am saying that we need someone like Trujillo. That is the only way. Without discipline, nothing can be achieved. And discipline is something that every Haitian lacks. I am not asking for a criminal. I am asking for a strongman who thinks country first. We recently experimented democracy with an elected clown, who had the entire parliament with him, and you see the results.

Mark my word. A new president will come, he will have an opposition, just like the convergence was, will not be able to do anything because of them, them another one will come, and the one in power yesterday will become the opposition and so on.

When do you break that cycle? Do you think that a nice man with a lot of good will be allowed to govern, democratically? You are dreaming my friend. In Haiti, no one cares. You have two kinds of people: the crooked politicians which are abundant and the ones (the majority) that will tell you that you are wrong, they do care, but rather complain and lament only. To me that type is non existent.

The democracy game belongs to educated people. You cannot sell it to a people who does not even know the meaning of it.

Do you think that an entire corrupted country will change overnight? It does not take one man or a group of men to make a country. It takes much more than that. How do you expect to have everyone behave properly if you don't crack the whip or terrorize them?

The only part of the country that has some form of discipline and values is the North. Thanks to Christophe and his whip.

As far as labor is concern, it isn't like you have the cheapest and smartest pool of workers in the region. Who cares about you? You've got nothing and you want to be demanding? The priority is to feed those people. So bouche nin ou bwe dlo santi. Time now is not about if, yes, but. Those don't put food on the table. Time is about actions, drastic measures, sacrifices, mare rin et mare li fo.

Don't expect changes overnight by already dictating to would be investors. You need them, and I'd say kiss their butt, because, between you and me, who gives a sh*t about us, Haitians? Who are we to be demanding? What do we have to offer? Nada! Ziltch! Zero. Anmedeman selman le dezod ap fet, blan pakab produi. Give them whatever they need. As long as they put well needed food on the table. Le vant plin, wa va fe ekzijans. Le yo fin etabli, wa ouvert bouch ou fe yo tande. Kounie, ou bezoin fe tankou se myel ou ye pou ka atire yo. Se ou ki bezoin, et ou bezoin yo anpil.

Time is running out, has ran out, and you don't have the luxury to waste it. They blamed Cedras, they blamed the army, but those now (including the blan) and those before have realized that they must do the same thing.

Qui aime bien, chatie bien.

If Haiti must go forward, you need someone ki pa nan dan griyin ak peson! Me ki deside lap fe pou peyi a. Se le wa terrorize anploye leta ya komanse produi. Tout moun va mache dwat. E peyi a va fe yon ti vanse.

[longwayfromhome]

Sergo,

I like your passion but I think it is misguided. Only when the power is in the hands of the people can we truly be free to reach our potential. The changes I write about won?t happen over night, it will be a long and hard uphill climb. But when we reach it we will be a stronger people for our struggle. You write of order under the heels of an absolute oppressor, but what is order with out free will. The freedom to choose your destiny, the freedom to speak out against what is wrong and yes the freedom to fail. Only when we have these freedoms can we truly see the kaleidoscope of human possibilities. What do you think will happen if the people speak ill of this kind hearted dictator of yours. Will he let them speak or mow them down with machine guns? Do think he won?t steal the money of the people like so many before him? Do you think he will be trusted and respected inside as well as outside the country? Your right no one gives a sh*t about Haiti, but that is only because we have not been able to show our true worth. Do you think the world would care about Iraq or Kuwait if not for their oil. Do you think they would care about India or China if they did not have there huge labor force. If we develop the country under a democratic leader who is willing to join the world market we can get rid of this (Third World) label off our land. Democracy is not only for the educated, everyone can understand one man one vote. Dictatorship only makes the weak weaker and the strong stronger. This has been proven throughout history over and over again. When there is a large gap between the haves and have-nots there will always be conflict and rebellion. Let?s get it right this time and get out of these old ways.

[aquasam]

Au fond, ce sont otutes des bonnes idees mais pour sortir reellement de cette crise il faudrait que les Haitiens prennent conscience du probleme: Ils vvivent tjrs dans une autre realite:zombie:

[Lionheart]

Hello Longwayfromhome,

j'espère que tu parles français, sinon j'essayerai de traduire ensuite.

J'aime beaucoup ta manière d'aborder le problème haitien, qui a ses particularités.

Il y a quelque qui manque, à la base, que l'on devrait créer. Une certaine unité sociale. Il faut que l'on aie quelque chose à laquelle on puisse se rattacher, pour créer cette unité.

Par exemple, aux EU, on croyait beaucoup en l'état, comme une religion (rêve américain). Cette "foi" a diminué et se reporte vers la religion.

En Haïti, on ne croit plus tellement en quoi que ce soit. Pas en quelque chose qui nous pousse vers l'avant. Tout le monde a peur ou n'a plus d'espoir que l'on arrive à une Haïti normale.

Only Haitians may own land in Haiti; this is a law that many countries have, it makes sure that the majority group of the country is always in power.

Je ne pense pas que ce soit une bonne idée. Il faut que l'on puisse s'ouvrir aux investissements étrangers, surtout privés. Sinon cela les encourage à pratiquer la corruption/détourner les lois pour s'établir.

Nous avons déjà une loi comme ça, moins restrictive. A l'origine cette loi a été faite pour supprimer la concurrence entre les haitiens et les étrangers/diasporas. Ce qui fait qu'on a pu garder nos monopoles sans avoir besoin d'évoluer.

Foreign companies must create ?learning centers? to train and retrain all workers to guarantee workers the chance of upward mobility.

Il ne faudrait pas que ce soit une obligation. On doit attirer des investisseurs, ce n'est pas en leur imposant des contraintes supplémentaires que nous le ferons.

[aquasam]

Oui les investissements aident tjrs. pour faire de l'argent il faut de l'argent et dans la situation actuelle il faut tout faire pour attirer ces investisseurs. hw5