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news Danny Glover set to make directorial film debut on Haitian ?Toussaint L'Ouverture?

Danny Glover set to make directorial film debut on Haitian Revolution slave leader ?Toussaint L'Ouverture?
SEPTEMBER 14, 2006 - 7:49 PM
Danny Glover, is set to make his directorial debut on ?Toussaint,? an action epic that will star Wesley Snipes, Don Cheadle and...
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By tilezanj on 10-24-06, 01:30 AM
My number one choice for that movie was Denzel Washington. Wesley do bare some ressemblance with Toussaint though
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By krisanne on 10-24-06, 01:37 AM
I think u need the real man

Still think that hollywwod would destroy this type of film. It needs someone big but not mainstream. Real actors too....Denzel....I don't think audiences would appreciate the history as much as being caught up with it being him
I think Don Cheadle is fine
Hotel Rwanda.....he will be a little over played and maybe not taken seriously due to the other roles. But your choice.
I still go for the new faces. When I see the new Don Cheadles...play parts so important...i'm more convinced. Hollywood kills credibility that's all...with time and roles....especially when they are typecast.
Danny Glover
He'll be a go! He's unaffected by the red carpet and still a pure thespian. He'd lead a wonderful cast to play the parts surrounding Toussaint. He has led many showing them "you can be the first and the best".
I hope he gets the honor and gives the honor to direct and choose a better lead for this role.
Just to add....If Don Cheadles and Angela Bassett are cast in the film, you already have the notoriety and star attraction. If you put Wesley in a role next to them, whom I think have and will continue to play superior roles, it will diminish the role of the lead ...the most important!
With such a stellar cast and director, the "new guy" will attract more attention worldwide. People are curious when a fresh face appears in a film surrounded by those of such stature. Wesley as I read in someone's previous thread lol....does infomercials now. He's a has been. He's currently on your haitiwebs news for tax frauds....he's well known and respected?? By who? HMMMM! You have a chance at showing us the hero Toussaint and in doing so creating a new hero with a new rising star.
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By edelma on 10-27-06, 11:46 AM
reply to karizmua assertion

I agree with karizmua 100%. I would love to see a Haitian play such a great role. But, we need to be reasonable and comprehensive. This film does not only intend to celebrate Toussaint Louverture, it needs to bring money for future such films, and also it needs to bring more fame to the "Precurseur" and our History. So, the leading role must be assigned to an internationally established name in show business. Right now, Danny Glover's choice of Wesley Snipes appears more appropriate. Let's let time and circumstances bring it Jean-Louis's way. Right now the project needs some convincing names for success purpose.
Ernst Delma
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By krisanne on 10-28-06, 01:57 AM
Respect That...but Wesley?

I totally respect that a big name would be essential to bring in an audience. However, the lead would be surrounded by a stellar cast with Don Cheadles and Angella Bassett.
Many succeful films succeed on that power. Oh, "who is the new guy if he's cast with them?"
Many films come to great fame that way. All I'm saying is go with the new man or choose some other reputable actor other than Wesley. He could be the downfall of the film. He's never really made any real dramatic performances to mention. He's an action man....not meant to play the chatacter of your hero. But it's a toss up opinion I understand!
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By edelma on 11-03-06, 04:58 PM
That's true krisane that newcomers sometimes make a huge difference , but we still have a lot to prove to force any director to put the fate of such a sublime project on some yet unproven shoulders. Hollywood does not do it the sentimental way. Danny perhaps would be happy to concede the role to Jimmy for a lot of reasons, but success has reasons that reason ignores. I'd be disappointed if Jimmy didn't get even a short appearance even for international exposure's sake. He'd be a great Moise Louverture - Toussaint's nephew - for example; but I doubt he will be trusted with the main thing. It's not talent he lacks, it's return on investment, unconditional success that is at stake.
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By krisanne on 11-03-06, 06:26 PM
I don't wish to compare, however, I think it has to be taken into account that authenticity is a major factor as yet. If you take the film Amistad, also based on a major historical event, two relatively unknowns were cast. It was a box office hit!
Eventhough it was Spielberg directing, he recognized the talents of Djimon Hounsou who came to Hollywood not knowing English. He played the lead next to Matthew McConnaugnehy also very new. They both stole the show and Mr. Hounsou learned English incredibly for his role and was astounding.
Cast among Anthony Hopkins and Morgan Freeman to further attract an audience, this with the appropriate publicity got people interested.
Danny Glover is well respected and having played along side Oprah in Beloved, no doubt she will be curious and supportive in endorsing his film. As well, as I mentioned before, with Angela Bassett who we haven't seen in a while but adore and Don Cheadles who with Hotel Rwanda and Crash to his credit will be a given to attract an audience of all sorts.
With this publicity and critics seeing the film at debuts, I thoroughly feel a thumbs up beforehand always influences the publics opinions. I respect the argument entirely.
However, if not Jimmy...just not Wesley....he could be what turns people away from the project. Thanks!
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By edelma on 11-04-06, 10:19 AM
reply to krisanne's remarkablke comments

You?re completely right krisanne. When one considers the natural and legitimate development of things; Jimmy should be the man of and for the circumstance. But I still think the circumstances being not the same; the same causes might produce different effects. I saw Amistad and Hotel Rwanda; they are remarkable, Don Cheadles and Djimon Hounsou have seized well the opportunity and reached an - ?avant la lettre? -precocious - acting apogee.
I am not arguing between Wesley and Jean-Louis, you don?t know how Haitian I am, I am arguing potential success for the film, which would perhaps open up on a better vision of our grandiose history and a better appreciation of our haitian roots. My argument is about strategy, vision, opportunity that would make us incontestable values in a near future. We were, we were giants indeed; but we have lost our grandiose historical acquisitions, victims of political dogfights, but this is a different story. We almost have to start from scratch.
Another aspect of the question is that Spielberg is Hollywood; he?s been since 1959 with ?The Last Gun?, he has reached apogee with Taxi driver, Jaws , ET etc
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000229/filmoyear. His only name sells his movies because they vow him unconditional respect, and unconditional success is almost always anticipated in his case.
I am not questioning Danny?s talent, he is a true actor, always incarnate his role perfectly - principally in Angels in the outfield and the remarkable The Saint of Fort Washington - but his behind the camera gut has yet to prove equal to his in front of the camera gut, so he refuses to take the risk. Perhaps he wants to make of a the first attempt a masterpiece. Spielberg had nothing to lose with Amistad, Danny has a lot to miss in case of this project's failure. I am sure a cast of supporting talents would place Jimmy right up there where Don Cheadles and Djimon Hounsou are enjoying success. He has the look, the radiance and the physical condition to play the Precursor. It would be a cultural justice to give him; but?once again let?s cross our fingers.
In any case krisanne, you and I must confess that we?re both right. I am also an idealistic one, but pragmatism has spoiled our legitimate pursuits and so often wins the case that being realistic stays our only final recourse. Our arguments could be regarded as two arrows thrown at two different points, but destined to meet somewhere up there.
Regards
Ernst Delma
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By krisanne on 11-04-06, 08:05 PM
Wink Yes...it's a toss up

Hello,
Yes, you're right that we both have our reasonings. I just hope whomever is cast..they will do justice to the history and nation. He will be "real" and not a cardboard hollywood cutout.
I know Spielberg is no comparison, however, many film lovers...not necessarily Haitian ...still go for the new directors. Or, they go with well experienced actors taking a turn behind the camera. Nobody knew Paul Haggis from Crash...he put the script together hastilty and equally the film...it drew in EVERYONE!
The content of the story must not be lost mainly and it is a price of who will attract a positive audience. Again....interesting debate...we'll one day soon see the outcome. Cheers, Krisanne
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By krisanne on 01-19-07, 09:36 PM
In light of the new attraction

I now think even more so, given the new star attraction and interest in Mr. Jean Louis that he's the chosen one. It's a God given!
Having recently seen, once again, Wesley in the cross dressing flick ..."what's it called...Choo WunG Fu....something ???memorable ( a horrific rerun I happened to be subjected to) like that added to his other repertoire of films demanding action films. In addition to his lack in theater/film career, his recent bad legal behavior/miconduct with bad coverage take him out of the race. What was he thinking?
This new "Heroes" hero will indeed now be making a name for himself. As indeed, for his Haitian community as a new superstar recognizable for well acclaimed work to all types of viewers. He now will be the "babe" of this project and attract the media/film lovers.
I think Wesley was a no go to begin with. Furthermore, there is someone to take this part and play the role...know the language, culture, and all added aspects to fulfill everyone's expectations and hopes. This could be a wonderful project...let it blossom not decay!
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