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Subject: To oppose in Haiti

A subject posted by abstercent on Sakapfet Political forum.

Here is my reply to the post.

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To oppose is healthy when there is an opposition of philosophies and doctrines whether they are political, social or economic but which do not aim the annihilation of the philosopher or the doctrinaire but rather "the remise en question" of his doctrine or philosophy by eloquent and effective demonstrations of the opposition. Electorates normally respond accordingly to this doctrinaire or the philosopher by lending their votes to support or to disapprove the effects or results produced by a certain doctrine or philosophy but when the doctrinaire or the philosopher is acting against the Constitution and with contempt for the Constitrution and the laws of the State or the Republic, the Opposition must denounce the illegality and the anticonstitutional means used by this philosopher or doctrinaire as an outlaw before even considering opposing his doctrine or philosophy. We do not have here Opposition of philosophies and doctrines we have criminal cases wich involve murders, corruption, embezzlement, drug dealing which are against the law and which should be punished by the law. If for a reason or another one decides to join forces with the criminal while being cognizant that he can be regarded as a complice he becomes liable automatically therefore he should be tried for being a complice. As far as the violation of the Constitution is concerned haitian politicians have a tendency to regard such high crime aginst the nation as petty and insignificant. This is the mentality of the actual political class that we have now in haiti . This can be translated very well through:

"Konstitision sé papié, Bayonet sé fè."

Lè sé pa bayonèt sé intimidasion, chantaj, imolasion, ak assasina nan broad day light ou lannwit. and the cycle of delinquency continues. Fok sa sispann mézanmi pou nou ka gen emansipasion kolektiv ak Pwospérité nasional nan la pè é la jwa nan yon péyi koté tout moun respekté lot.

What do we have to do to eradicate this mentality of bandits and intellectual delinquents in this country in order rectify the behavior of such future leaders who will govern contrarily from those who are now involved in the worshiping of the gods of vendettas or the gods of "Sé tou pam kounyè-a, mwen pran'l mwen pran'l net?" Since 1987 we have only seen contempt towards the citizens of the nation and the promotion of delinquency and abominations through their violations of the Constitution.

Did Manigat violate the Constitution?

Did Avril violate the constitution?

Did Namphy violate the constitution?

Why was the Constitution of 1987 written for ?

Did the leaders who come to power in the name of this constitution respect this constitution?

Erta Trouillot did not violate the constitution but I let you introspect a little so you can understand that Lavalasse even though guilty of the same crime is not the first government to violate the constitution. It is more to eradicate of this outlaw mentality which breeds inepty, oppression, corruption, favoritism ,backwardness and obscurantism than to criticize Jean Bertrand Aristide. There are so many arrogant pseudo intellectual and criminal politicians on the haitian stage that it is impossible to solve a national crisis in a civilized manner to preserve the institutions, to set a new order for the next generation or to simply be civilized , consciencious, compassionate patriotic and having a sense of civic responsibility which demonstrates one's love and respect for the nation.. I predict that until Haiti finds one party of competent law abiding patriots to déchouké constitutionally the outlaw mentality by enforcing the laws and by demonstrating results and success , the best thing and the most effective thing to do is to denounce this mentality of outlaw and bring the culprits to court. Until now it seems that all of our leaders seem inclined to perpetuate this mentality until a new class of Patriots step in. Right or wrong?

It is a vicious circle and many seek the help of Foreign countries to help them in their illegal and anticonstitutional enterprises in the name of their intellectual credentials or bravado. Until this mentality is eradicated, Haiti will not know Collective Emancipation nor National Production nor national Prosperity.

Sé pa nan djol yo sèvi mézanmi. An nou komansé bay ekzanp bon sitwayen patriot vizionè konpétan ak Lavalasse é Konverjans the failure of the movement of 87. Dare discriminate against : thieves demagogues , incompetent, outlaws but support law abiding competent conscientious disciplined patriot citizens. They are the ones who can oppose effectively in " L'union Fait La Force san anpil palé fransè pour faire dodo titit ou byen diatribe tankou "Mourir est beau" ki yon taktik pou manipilé pèp souveren ki po ko wè klè.. Show respect for the Constitution and win with Pèp souveren by civilizing them , emancipating them and bringing Prosperity and happiness in each single home regardless of tribal origin,class status, economic and academic background. When we will show this to the world we will be regarded as civilized freedom loving africans who have defeated Napoleon by the force of their collective virtues , collective wisdom, collective intelligence and savoir vivre. Mwen menm mwen di ké Si karavan dé la pè-a pa réalizé sa, travay lap fè-a poko sa. Aristide ak Lavalas ap kalé dada tout moun tou tan pèp souveren pa ka wè démonstrasion sivilizé ki pwouvé ké gen moun ki ka fè mié san assasinen ni boulé moun vivan.

This is the challenge. Si'w renmen péyi'w vré é ké ou vlé sèvi li :

Dénonsé illégalité, koripsion , vol, détounamn lajan pèp la, kidnapping, asssasina, drog diling, inégalité ,néokolonialism, fachism men montré ké doktrin ou-a, filozofi'w la ka fè mié ké doktrin Aristid ak Lavalasse é ké'w respekté la lwa. Fè yo wè diférans telman byen ké yo ka chanjé attitid. La vérité blesse et tue? Mwen dako men sé la vérité selman ki ka chanjé péyi-a; Fok la vérité goumen ak manti kan menm. Moun ki pa dinyité, ki pa gen kouraj , ki pa gen konsians pa ka émansipé pèp la ni poté pwospérité la kay li. Ki moun ki pral fè pwodiksion nasional la lè ou gen yon pèpsouveren ki plis kwè nan délinkans, konpotman "Hors la loi" ké oneteté responsablité ak éfikasité , Montrém dévwa sivik , solidarité ak Inion ?Montrém sa.

Mwen menm mésié sé sam pansé dé opozision ak zafè intélektiel nou évoké nan sijè sa-a ak posts sa- yo ké nou ékri yo.

Je vous embrasse.

[jafrikayiti]

Onè Haitinow,

Pwoblèm klas politik la egzibe a, li gen vyolasyon konstitisyon ladan li vre. Men, pou mwenmenm, vyolasyon konstitisyon an se sèlman yon sentòm, se pa maladi a limenm. Maladi a, se anti-Ayisyanis laplipa endividi ki nan klas ki gen privilèj ekzèse pouvwa politik ak ekonomik nan peyi a. E anti-Ayisyanis sa a, se yon bagay yo aprann depi yo piti, sou ban lekòl, sou ban legliz, nan reyinyon 'club litéraire', 'brigadye', 'anfannkè' elatriye....

Lè yon anbasadè Meriken kanpe nan yon 'Chanm Komès' epi li pwenti dèyè li nan tout direksyon pou li gaye depi se endijesyon ki te antòtye bil li... epi se gwo aplodisman li resevwa.....se sèlman plizyè jou annapre chak nèg ki te fin aplodi tankou esklav plantasyon k ap aplodi bastonad esklav parèy li...koumanse ap konprann ke se nan direksyon li mouche a t ap voye move lodè li yo....sa vle di ou gen annafè ak anpil moun lanvè-landwat. Yo pa konprann ki moun yo ye, sa y ap fè kote yo ye a, ni kouman yo fè kote yo ye a.

Rezilta sa a, se rezilta yon kondisyonman ki fèt sou lespas plizyè jenerasyon. Pou nou kwape sa, nou pa kapab ap plede manyen sentòm yo sèlman, fòk nou manyen MALADI a.

Ki sa ki fè Ayisyen ki nan klas privilejye a soufri maladi anti-Ayisyen?

Pou nou konprann maladi sa a, fòk nou etidye yon lòt maladi ki nan menm fanmi an. Ki sa ki lakòz Ayisyen ki nan klas privilejye a anti-Afriken?

Anvan nou ta rapousuiv nan refleksyon sa a, fòk nou ta satisfè kanmarad, gen gen tan ap manifeste pou mande prèv ke Ayisyen ki nan klas privilejye a anti-Ayisyen?

1) Depi 3 zan gen yon swadizan kriz elektoral. Se Ayisyen ki te al vote, kouman ou esplike ke Ayisyen ki nan klas privilejye a, refize lage dènye jijman an (aksepte osnon refè eleksyon yo) nan men popilasyon Ayisyen an (palentèmedye konsiltasyon popilè elatriye...) - men yo TOUT aksepte al chita nan fouk etranje pou yo pran direktiv. Se paske yo anti-Ayisyen. Anti-yomenm. Pro-etranje.

2) Depi plizyè ane CIA ap fè ti dife boule ant Lavalas ak Convergence pandan y ap finanse yon ti klik mèsènè tradisyonèl nan sektè ekstrèm dwat la pou vin dechouke yo toulede sou teren politik la. Anpil nan vrè dirijan ti klik sa a, se etranje yo ye. Poutan, tankou yon bann enbesil mesyedam Lavalas ak Convergence yo kontinye ekzekite ti pyès teyat yo ba yo jwe a, pandan y ap obsève pouvwa ti klik etranje anti-Ayisyen an k ap pran jarèt dejouzanjou.

Haitinow, sa nou pa janm vle pran tan analize, sèke evènman k ap pase nan lòt peyi montre nou aklè ki sous tentennad n ap viv Ayiti a. Voye je gade Kongo ou va wè kouman apre kriminèl blan ki te rele Léopold la te fin pati kite peyi sa a, blan (Meriken, Angle, Bèelj, Franse elatriye...) te òganize yo pou yo toujou jwenn lò ak dyaman agogo pandan nèg yo byen drese pou yo anti-Kongo kontinye ap petefyèl yo youn kont lòt. Pase nan Sierra Leonne, Cote d'Ivoire epi founi je gade. Lè ou fini, gade kijan pou defann entèrè 2% blan ki nan Zimbabwe yo, tout blan sa yo mete ansanm pou fokis fòs dechoukay yo kont sila a ki ap menase pouvwa yo nan peyi sa a.

Ayiti ap viv menm dram tout nasyon Afriken yo ap viv toupatou sa latè. Nanm pitit li yo nan boutèy. Yo poko kase chenn, yo poko aprann renmen tèt yo plis pase yo renmen sila a k ap tòtire nanm yo a. Gen yon travay dezentoksikasyon ki pou fèt. Yon REMANBRE. E, menm jan dekonstonbray la - mete nanm nan boutèy la - transfòmasyon anti-noumenm nan te pran plizyè jenerasyon pou li te konplete, se menm jan an tou, nou pral oblije pase plizyè jenerasyon anvan nou reyisi rekonstwi fanm ak gason Ayisyen ki va anfavè Ayisyen olye li anti Ayisyen an.

Lèe sa a, non sèlman politisyen Ayisyen an ap respekte konstitisyon peyi li, jounalis Ayisyen ap respekte deyontoloji metye li nan peyi li, doktè Ayisyen an pap kite malerèz mouri nan lopital jeneral paske li poko wè koulè lajan, chanm komès Ayisyen, se Ayisyen y ap nonmen alatèt li e yo pap aplodi lè yo 'pimp' fristre paske li pèdi nonm li ap vin deboulonnen yon litani ipokrit nan figi yo.

Annatandan, se travay la ki pou kontinye fèt toupatou pou Ayisyen kontinye kase chenn.

Respè,

Se pa kado blan te fè nou, se san zansèt nou yo ki te koule !

[Bon Paulo]

Jafrikayiti,

Tu as beaucoup soumis tes analyses concernant l?africanisme, la zombification qu?exerce l?européanisation-égocentrique. Soit ! Je respecte tes analyses.

Maintenant, de grâce, propose des actions concrètes pour y remédier à cet état de fait.

[jafrikayiti]

Bon Paulo,

Sa fè lontan n ap pwopoze aksyon konkrè. Men, fòk ou reyalize ke tout pwopozisyon sa yo pap itil anyen si premyèman, nou pa reyisi sansibilize yon mas kritik ki konprann tout bon vre ke nou pa kapab kontinye ak menm penpenp lan.

Mas kritik sa a koumanse bati depi 1986. Li pote yon gwo viktwa an 1990 men yo rape l nan men popilasyon an san pèdi tan. E kounye a, anvan nou kapab di n ap kouri ankò, fòk nou ka ranmase fò kanpe, mache, egzèse vitès nou elatriye.

An 1990 ou te gen yon latriye fanm ak gason revolisyonè ki te kanpe ansanm pou akonpaye popilasyon an nan mouvman kase chenn sa a. Anpil nan yo mouri jounen jodi a. Fòk gen semans ki fèt ankò.

Si ou sonje byen, koze restitisyon Prezidan Aristide soulve 7 avril 2003 a, se kichòy mwen te ankouraje Prezidan Preval fè depi 1999 lè li ta pral nan gagòt Frankofoni nan lavil Moncton, O Kanada (alewè ralonj ki anba siyati m nan anba a). Alepòk, pyès moun p at pete nan koton banm santi. Malerezman, Lavalas rete tann se lè li nan yon pozisyon feblès li soulve yon kesyon enpòtan konsa. Men, mwen rete kwè se nan direksyon sa a pou Ayiti evolye.

Solidarite ki koumanse bati ak peyi G77 yo (peyi ki apovri yo) se yon bon mouvman tou. Paske, nan syèk k ap vini la a, sèl sa ki ka ede pèp tankou Ayiti sòtio anba grif blan Ewopeyen ak blan Ameriken, se konte sou fòs popilasyon ki ka mobilize pou egzije chanjman. Kit se Lachin ak Lend ki gen kantite milya moun lakay yo, kit se kontinan Afriken an (ak kèk jeyan ekonomik - potansyèl tankou Afrikdisid), kit se zanmitay Kiba, Taiwan, blòk Karikòm nan, tout alyans sa yo ap ede Ayisyen louvri orizon yo, kite geto sipèfisyèl yo te toujou antòtye ladan yo a (Restavèk kiltirèl Lewòp, restavèk politik Ameriken).

Nou nan yon peryòd tranzisyon, se sa ki fè bagay yo parèt gaye. Men si ou suiv sa k ap pase nan mitan entèlektyèl Afriken toupatou sou planèt la, mouvman REMANBRE a se pa yon bagay abstrè li ye. Gen anpil tantantiv panafrikanis ki fèt deja...men kounye a se fòs mouvman sa yo ap pran - e pèp Afriken an, se yon pèp ki deja globalize. Nou toupatou. Apre kontinan Lafrik la, se Brezil nou gen plis moun...Men yon lòt lyezon Ayiti dwe bati prese prese.....e sanble Prezidan Aristide gen tan konprann sa.

Kidonk, si nou reyisi anpeche kolon yo kenbe nou nan 'fo kriz' , gen yon espas ki deja louvri pou pèmèt pèp Ayisyen kase chenn nan tèt la nètalkole. Gen liv k ap pibliye, fim k ap pwodui....pyès teyat popilè ki koumanse pran lari, dyaspora a kenbe kontak pi sere ak vye fanmi li anndan lakay...kidonk li pa reziyen li kite peyi a bay miltinasyonal ak bòdmè reyaksyonè a...

Kidonk, Paolo, se pa ni yon endividi, ni 100, men plizyè santèn milye ki ap mennen zouti konkrè yo...nan lekòl, legliz, lwa, kilti, koutim, ekonomi, diplomasi peyi nou.

Tankou Boukman toujou di l: " Ti pa ti pa, avèk yo ou san yo, Ayiti ap chanje !"

respè,

[Bon Paulo]

Jafrikayiti,

Je comprends ton raisonnement. Mais, il ne faut pas être « haine pour haine, dent pour dent ». Il faut apprendre à pardonner. Pardonner ne veut pas dire pas oublier. Il faut travailler pour que la donne change. Il ne faut pas cultiver l?esprit revanchard. Il faut apprendre à pardonner aux imbéciles ; c?est la logique de la vie qui dépasse notre logique humaine, qui voudrait cela, on dirait.