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Old 09-17-07, 05:59 PM
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intruder, poze, an nou pale tet fret!! qui est contre le changement? Aucun changement n'est plus radical, plus profond et plus difficile que celui de changer de mentalite et c'est pour ce changement que je suis. Mais tout changement doit se faire sur des bases solides et permanentes ; comme l'a dit pano il faut garder au moins les reperes que sont nos symboles : le nom du pays Haiti, l'hymne national la Dessalinienne et le drapeau bicolore actuel. Sur ces reperes, nous pourrons ensemble construire un pays selon un consensus.
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Why is everyone acting like i'm asking them to change their entire identity?
Maybe its just the part of me that always wants to tweak and change things but that's just me. Its just a preference. I'd just rather do without riffles and canons on the flag. I really dont think our ancestors would be turning in their graves over this
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Some people agree with you.
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intruder, i think there is a misunderstanding. Nous sommes une nation qui est nee dans le sang, c'est donc normal d'apres moi que les armes symbolisant cette naissance atypique figurent dans le drapeau. De la meme facon que la Marseillaise en France est un chant qu'on peut traiter de guerrier. Un drapeau n'est pas suppose a mon avis etre modifie selon les circonstances du moment. Nous devons en faire un symbole permanent tout comme notre hymne national. Par le passe, le drapeau a effectivement change plusieurs fois et a contribue a projeter l'image d'un peuple qui se cherche encore tout comme les changements frequents de constitution. Le drapeau actuel a ete adopte voila quelques temps et la majorite des gens s'y sont identifiee, moi inclus.
En passant, j'aurais pu etre d'accord avec toi si j'etais sur qu'un changement de drapeau serait un changement definitif et permanent (disons au moins 150 ans). Mais dans notre histoire, nous n'avons rien su conserver aussi longtemps mis a part le nom "Haiti". Donc je pense que nous devrions nous acharner a garder les symboles actuels.
By the way, intruder, tres bonne idee de debat!!!
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Out of curiosity, do we currently have a working cannon in our arsenal?
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According to this site, the current emblem was adopted in 1962 by Francois Duvalier.
I supposed in our quest to imitate the French we selected their bonnet phrygien.
Mezanmi pou jan yo pa vle we Duvalier, men nap goumin pou konseve eritaj li.
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angegardien, ou nan kay la!! Ou byen konnen Duvalier se te nwa ak wouj li te mete kom koule. E nou retire sa. Epi si li te vini ak embleme nan, se tre byen, n'ap kenbe l'paske nou fin idantifye n'ave l'. Men se pa goumen n'ap goumen non zanmi, n'ap echanje opinyon nou. Ki pozisyon pa w'ou menm?
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sakapfet ralafontant. pozityon mwen nan post # 7
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