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[krisanne]

Yes...in light of all the results the war in Iraq has caused and the so called well posted UN forces in Haiti, somthing is still wrong. VERY WRONG!!

Instead of peace keeping as the front of their efforts, things have gone the wrong direction ever since this type of external aid was offered. More innocent deaths have occured as a result of the so called UN interest in "protection".

Yet many are there due to assignment and as lost as can be imagined. They don't know what to do.

It's time for all of the countries involved to step forward with their ideas to rebuild their nations. It takes nations...but under the suffering there must be some hopes and dreams you have created. You as well have a responsibility to prove yourselves and it is a long path.

There are far more worthy sponsors/partners for your success and you should exam those out there who are willing. Get on with the positive...you can't really change old fools!

[Titine]

Somebody please, I need an English translation of this text.

You are mutilating Shakespeare's language.

[krisanne]

I'll simplify it for you. The UN has been sent there as they are assigned so. However, the gangs and many other Haitians see them as causing more harm than good.

When clashes break out between them (UN) and the gangs or anti-UN, unfortunatley innocent people get killed in the crossfire. This is what is so WRONG!

The blame gets placed on both parties ....let me be really clear for you...the UN and the GANGS....but since the UN are an external aid they seem to get the blame for causing and fueling more problems than peacekeeping. They're not Haitian thus treated practically as unwanted intruders.

I just think it must be a hard position to be in. Between a rock and a hard place....they're there on a mission yet unwelcomed and being attacked by "chimeres" and the general population. Haiti needs to take some responsibilty for its crisis too. Things are not going to get better overnight. Therefore any help from the UN shouldn't be quickly judged, especially since there is always this finger pointing that other countries promising to help Haiti don't fulfill their promises ( protection, economy, tourism, etc.).

Sorry if you think I'm mutilating Shakespeare, but I'm not writing for a creative old English course. I'm writing a thread in point form.

I hope this is easier for you to undertand. I suggest Oxford's dictionary and thesaurus. Other than that I won't be writing any Chaucer forms of Ye 'Ol English. Here Ye? LOL

[krisanne]

I'll simplify it for you. The UN has been sent there as they are assigned so. However, the gangs and many other Haitians see them as causing more harm than good.

When clashes break out between them (UN) and the gangs or anti-UN, unfortunatley innocent people get killed in the crossfire. This is what is so WRONG!

The blame gets placed on both parties ....let me be really clear for you...the UN and the GANGS....but since the UN are an external aid they seem to get the blame for causing and fueling more problems than peacekeeping. They're not Haitian thus treated practically as unwanted intruders.

I just think it must be a hard position to be in. Between a rock and a hard place....they're there on a mission yet unwelcomed and being attacked by "chimeres" and the general population. Haiti needs to take some responsibilty for its crisis too. Things are not going to get better overnight. Therefore any help from the UN shouldn't be quickly judged, especially since there is always this finger pointing that other countries promising to help Haiti don't fulfill their promises ( protection, economy, tourism, etc.).

Sorry if you think I'm mutilating Shakespeare, but I'm not writing for a creative old English course. I'm writing a thread in point form.

I hope this is easier for you to undertand. I suggest Oxford's dictionary and thesaurus. Other than that I won't be writing any Chaucer forms of Ye 'Ol English. Here Ye? LOL

By the way....you criticized my English before. When I read your criticism, it was with its own errors in English. Ironic..those who ridicule??

[Titine]

Originally Posted by KRISANNE

I just think it must be a hard position to be in. Between a rock and a hard place....they're there on a mission yet unwelcomed and being attacked by "chimeres" and the general population.

My dear, you should be aware that when you are writing you are not doing so for youself, you are writing to please the people reading you. You have to be clear, your writing must be easy and understandable to everyone. Far away from my mind to criticize you, however you must be responsible and accurate when you are writing your articles. There is no civil war in Haiti right now as you are suggesting above. A couple of hundred people took the street to voice their disapproval of the presence of the MINUSTHA in Haiti, they are not the general population. It was a pure coincidence, the country was celebrating la Bataille de Vertieres on november 18 and it was just a cry of nationalism/patriotism coming from about 200 haitian students from the university, again it was not the general public as you mentioned.

As for not using the old English, its your business. But for your knowledge when someone used the expression like the "Language of Shakespeare" it means the true, proper and accurate English language, same way as when we say in french la "Langue de Voltaire" it does not mean the old French language.

Now krisanne I just did you 2 big favors, I gave you the accurate news from Haiti and some lesson in literature.

My good deed is done for today and I am happy.

[krisanne]

I don't seem to have addressed the issue of civil war. It appears your response somewhat irrelavent to my opinion on this. Which futhermore, I have the idea this is what a forum is for. We respect each others opinions and if we disagree, that's to be expected.

I'm talking about UN soiidiers who are there and are amongst differed waves of tolerance in appreciation. Some UN countries happen to be known to be more trigger happy and less helpful when it comes to their missionary duties.

Others however do reinforce their mission to help the police training, civil protection and to supress gang violence in the worst areas ( ie. Cité de Soleil) Unfortunately, amidst these efforts lives on both sides are lost. Yet tolerance is becoming weaker by more protests occurring and appear to be escalating.

When I speak of the general population, Haiti is so overpopulated and the majority still grossly underpaid and aggravated. I'm in no way speaking as or for a Haitian, I'm just saying some of these forces are there to help and hopefully their aid will be accepted.

I'm glad Titane you feel happy from such a simple gesture. It says alot about you...I repect your opinion??

Incidently, I just viewed your vague profile. If you're Haitan and on my tail even about the post on the gospel choir's nationality....why the Bette Davis or whoever...white avatar. She's from an era and milieu of white supremacy...interesting! Really!

[TiCam]

??????!!!!!!

[Titine]

TiCam you don't understand either?

My dear Krisiane, imagine I just learn something from you, that Bette Davis might be or is a member of the white supremacist. Are you really familiar with such an expression and do you understand the meaning of it. As a white woman, which I know you are, are you familiar with Miss Davis' political views to form such an opinion, to accuse her of being in a milieu and suggesting that she is a white supremacist?

By the way in what planet are you from or belong to, are there white folks where you from, I hope that they are not as incoherent as you are. I don't think nor can I believe that there are 2 like you.

Another thing I learned about you while reading the shoutbox is that you are married to a chimere who is actually in Haiti. Is that why you are so ill-informed about news in Haiti.

I understand now why everyone is running away from you. I really, really feel sorry for you. You poor girl.

[krisanne]

Interesting that as much as these 2 always opress my beliefs or opinions, they post threads. Very polite diplomatic ones at "that". lol

In sight of your opinions once again....if everyone is running away from me...why do you insist on coming back? Kind of a contradiction if I may say so...hmm!

God Bless...and Good Night! from this planet where people should say hello, open doors, and always listen. See Ya!

My husband is a"chimere" by way of the shoutbox. Now there's a notewotrhy source.....Oh my God....what is this site...or shall I say what kind of people thrive on it.

Watch the "Bold and the Beautiful" when you decide you don't have anything better to do. WT?

My comment on Bette Davis was not that she herself personally was a supremacist. If you'd read more carefully, I said she cake from that era and milieu. At the pinnacle of her carreer as well as for others of notable fame during let's say the 50s (and some before), were blacks treated equally?

Pardon me, but I seem to have noted that during this period, there was still a great battle for equal rights. That's all I'm referring to in that respect.

Anyhow, you all have a nice day. I have to contact my "chimere" husband. Oh wait ....that's right I'm a witch ...I guess I can transfer messages with my supernatural powers. I'm a little hungry too...I must see if there are any good trees to eat. That's also the scoop when I was last regretfully involved in the shoutbox. hahahahahaha! Oh Lord...what people do to try and empower themselves...sadly by trying to make others look lesser. RESPECT!

I've still been fortunate enough to communicate with others who can engage in posts without any malice whatsoever. In fact very friendly whether or not there is a difference of views, opinions ,etc. See you!