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Old 01-20-06, 11:10 PM
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our future as haitians

I left Haiti 46 years ago coming to Columbia Presbyterian to study medicine and surgery as fellow. My goal was to return home. The Duvaliers' regimes kept me away but I always had the dream in my heart that one day I would be back in Haiti. When Aristide took power I felt the country was entering a new chapter. After all Aristide was from the suposedly oppressed majority, had travelled widely, was a priest (vows of poverty, chastity et...), was not yet corrupted and had the faith and love of a majority of Haitians, whatever their skin's shade or their economical situation. I must say that the man greatly let me down. I am still down.
Haiti is worse, much worse now than when I left 46 years ago and I am afraid I am bound to die on foreign soil.
What disturbs me however is that Haitians are busily selling the best sites of our country to various foreign business interests. Labadee is not supposed to be in Haiti. Jacmel belongs now to foreigners, and groups of Canadian, French, American, German even Dominican are crisscrossing the country looking for seashore paradises. I have heard that Jeremie, Dame Marie, Port Salut, Camp Perrin, l'ile a Vaches are under a great deal of pressure from foreign investors. Some "Blancs" even have little shangri las on Haitian soil, accessible only by boats and protected by armed guards. The natives arre used as servants and are moved to less scenic parts of the country. I presume the seacost is too good for them. Haiti is much too beautiful for Haitians.
We are in the meanwhile busily fighting the wars of mulatres et noirs, pauvres et riches, lavalassais (Haitians have always loved stupid empty words), duvalieristes, creolistes, frenchists etc...Now we have a diaspora, whatever the word means.
I hate to say it but we would have been better of if the wars of independance had nnever taken placel. Dessalines must be sobbing in his grave.
Do tell,when are we going to stop the nonsense, the pillaging, the destruction and get together to do something constructive, something good for all Haitians ?
I am old and I want to go home.
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Old 01-21-06, 06:22 PM
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I understand you
There is no better place than home
When I left haiti to study I told my family and friends I will come back because Haiti needs me evybody ask me are you crazy? but when I am looking that situation I cannot tell when I will be back but I hope evrything will be fine I really want to participate in the progress of my country
Love you Haiti despite all that sad moments i had overthere
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Old 01-23-06, 06:03 PM
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Wow, that's a very long time. Haiti 46 years ago is surely not the Haiti today. I'm in my early 20s and I can tell you that the Haiti I knew is not the Haiti of today. Sometimes, we go through life with just memories of the "good 'ol days"... we play the great moments over and over in our minds like a film without sound. There is no place like ?Lakay?.
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Old 01-24-06, 11:56 AM
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I do understand

Most Haitians living in foreign countries had a dream. Their dream was to go back when the country is getting better, unfortunately their is no such thing as getting better in Haiti's vocabulary. Haiti is getting worst and worst. The worst is that we keep blaming others, our country's problem is our fault we need to stop blaming others and have a self examination: "What did I do for my country in order to help?"
The people believed in Aristid because we thought he understood the situation of the poor, but when he was in power he just give proof that he was just jealous of those in power at that time because he acted worst than all previous leaders. He has showed a lack of sensibility to the people he claimed to be friend to. All he had always wanted is to keep the power. He was nothing better than all the leaders he was criticizing when he was a priest at St Jean Bosco.
I do believe that all our politicians are armed with that same sense of jealousy which means they will do the same or worst than their predecessors. It's all about money it was and never will be about our country fate.
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i left haiti was i was 11 years old the contry is a chamble .the people shouldn't vote people who is 40 or older we need new blood these people should quit politik paske yo pa kanpe sou anyin because they should a shame of themselves
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Old 12-22-07, 10:31 PM
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Our destiny is bright and with our generation, things will begin to change. I have faith in this and i hope i'm not alone.
En attendant, Merry Christmas to all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-22-07, 10:44 PM
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Our destiny is bright and with our generation, things will begin to change. I have faith in this and i hope i'm not alone.
En attendant, Merry Christmas to all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deja vu! My generation thought the same way. You'll be a grandfather, nothing will be changed and your grand kids will think the very same way that you do now, so will their grandchildren too. We all have been doing so for 200 years.
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Old 12-22-07, 11:28 PM
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angegardien, it's not like your death. You still can do so much for the country. Your mind is the only limit. By the way, i've heard so many people tell me what you are saying.
You still can do a lot as long as God keep you alive!
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Old 12-22-07, 11:38 PM
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By the way, i've heard so many people tell me what you are saying.
Then RAL, that must tell you that the "dream" method does not work. I already told you the way it could happen. It's the only way! Like it or not.
You are not dealing with a normal people here. For example, ever heard of Soukri? It's a high sacred place of Voodoo pelerinage. 90% of the people are into Voodoo. Ever saw the pictures from a Soukri ceremony? A bunch of people bathing in mud (sacred mud they say, but to me mud is mud). LA BOUE!!
So how do you deal with that? The whip! Baton! Se baton sel ki ka fe Ayitien mache presto rapido pou jenerasyon paw la ka we rev ou.

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Old 12-23-07, 09:59 AM
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Cool Dreams

What do dreams represent? "A dream is a hallucinatory experience involving a sequence of images, sounds, ideas, emotions, or other sensations usually during sleep, especially REM sleep." Have you ever had a dream and woke up remembering it? If you could remember it, and a person was writing you a manuscript for a movie for the big screen, would you be able to describe it for them to replicate it? Because you have to keep in mind, dreams are like thoughts, true they are not real, they are just concepts until made tangible. So the dream method could work.
"The events of dreams are often impossible, or unlikely to occur, in physical reality: they are also usually outside the control of the dreamer. The exception to this is known as lucid dreaming, in which dreamers realize that they are dreaming, and are sometimes capable of changing their dream environment and controlling various aspects of the dream. The dream environment is often much more realistic in a lucid dream, and the senses heightened." Have you ever locked your keys in the car? How did you get them out? Maneuvering some type of way around the window right? Remember, usually when one door closes a window can be opened. By the remainder of the definition above, though often "impossible" when one realizes, they are capable of making "changes" and "controlling various aspects".
Remember, manifestation of thoughts and ideas, pathe the way for "DREAMS" to come true.
People often need something to hold on too. Something to believe in. One shouldn't
knock what they don't know or believe it. As long as what the next person does, does not impede in anyway on them. Let them do what they do. At the end of the day, everything that is said and done, is said and done for a reason. If something doesn't work, eventually the doer will figure it out.
"You can lead a camel to water, but you can't make him drink."
I agree with you, on appearance, mud does look like mud. But on appearance "Poland Springs" does looks like tap water.

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