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Will Crisis Ever be over (anonymous posting allowed) - On a toujours dit que les élections pourraient rectifier la situation en Haiti. Maintenant que nous l'avions eu, cette crise sera-t-elle résolue une fois pour toute?
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Old 02-19-01, 02:15 PM
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Question "pourquoi ne pas réécrire ce Scénarion"?

"Ce ne sont pas ceux qui savent le mieux parler qui ont les meilleurs choses à dire". Haiti est à la veille d'une crise indécisive, c'est peut être la plus grave de son histoire ou du moins la dernière.
Si le monde est comme william shakespeare a dit: une pièce de théatre dans laquelle nous figurons a titre d'acteurs ou d'actrices, alors nous avons la priorité ou la capacité de modifier le scénario a temps voulu.
Dans le scénario haitien des roles ont été mal distribués. par example, des cireurs de chaussures sont médecins, des cultivateurs sont dans la chambre législative, des bouretiers professeurs d'écoles, des professeurs d'écoles premiers ministres, des évêques presidents, enfants_ mafias, des innocents_victimes, des aveugles au sein du gournement, et ainsi continue la sottise...
Je suis certain que comprenez bien ce que je veux expliquer dans les phrases boiteuses la-dessus.
Alors, le brin de paille (le peuple) doit s'en souvenir que c'est contre lui la mer s'agitera. Si nous aspirons a un avenir meilleur nous devons le préparer.
Haiti a quitté le stage ou on laisse des novistes viennent essayer leurs philosophies.
c'est assez! C'en est fait!
Avec la montée du président Aristide, les haitiens qui aiment Haiti vont profiter de cette occasion pour l'aider, nous allons nous collaborer...
Il n'est pas question que vous n'aimez pas le president....nous avons quelque chose en commun:HAITI A SAUVER.
l'autre l'a bien dit "qui sait agit qui ne sait pas enseigne".
Cela fait longtemps depuis que la raison a cédé sa place au tissoussoutisme, cela fait longtemps depuis qu'on attendait ce 7 février, alors An nou METE tet ANSANM.
Moi je ne sais que suis-je, pas lavalas, pas opposé, pas Aristidien, pas evansien, ou quelqu'un d'autre...je suis un haitien qui est fatigué de vivre a l'etranger, je suis un haitien qui respire un lendemain meilleur.
Je ne condamne personne, tout hier c'est l'histoire, commençons donc maintenant a faire les modifications necessaires dans le scenario haitien.
"Seul l?ignorant se fâche, le sage comprend."
Je ne cesserai jamais de pleurer mon sort; je pourais etre maintenant dans mon pays mais exilé dans le pays des exploiteurs...
Que le cireur de bottes s'occupe des chossures, le professeur d'ecole de l'education, le vidangeur qu'il se tienne a son metier, etc...
Donnez Haiti une Chance....si vous l'aimez vous le ferez.
L'homme au pouvoir c'est pas lui le problème, car il y est pour nous aider tous...et meme s'il avait de mauvaises intentions notre devoir devarait etre de lui exiger a respecter son dicours du 7 fevrier.....
Haitiens, ne faites plus de philosophie, Haiti est en danger....
"Qui parle sème qui écoute récolte".
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Pascal Boby
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Old 01-17-02, 02:11 PM
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Il y'a maintenant un procès subliminal sur l'évolution intellectuelle , mentale et spirituelle aussi bien que sur la prospérité sociale et financière des masses et sur l'appropriation de notre moi collectif. Il y'a aussi des mesures de rectification en couveuse pour annihiiler l'esprit de débauche qu'a trop longtemps subi notre classe moyenne et la répression de son intellect. La classe politique et la classe économiquement privilégiée doivent être responsabilisées et être averties que tout abus futur de leurs privilèges sera pénalisé sévèrement car ils sont responsables de la léthargie économique du pays et du manque d'émancipation collective de la nation.Un nouveau modèle de société passe par les turbulentes mises en place d'une structure compatible a un état de droit auquel les citoyens payent leur taxes,respectent et appliquent les lois et la discipline civique nécessaire pour la construction d'un état uni, libre , indépendant, prospère et émancipé.Donc Mon cher Bobby il faut intervenir, réprimander , encourager , honorer, défendre, manifester, faire les compliments à qui les méritent et montrer du doigt les vilains.Déjà il faut qu'on s'unisse pour le bien collectif de la patrie et combattre l'esprit égoiste du profit pour soi contre les intérêts collectifs de la nation et le manque d'autodiscipline qui donne la nation en spectacle. Patience donc Bobby.Cette tâche nous incombe , nous cette gnération, la génération de l'Exodus.
La traversée du désert a peut être été longue, mais aujourd'hui on peut déjà étancher notre soif près du oasis de l'Unité et de la paix. L'esprit de ce forum a bien changé depuis une certaine prise de conscience n'est ce pas citoyen Bobby?
Les vilains , ce sont ceux qui par leurs actes philistins et leurs diatribes philistines empêchent l'unité nationale et l'appropriation du moi collectif, Nous Haiti, la valeureuse nation de Novembre 1803.
Mèsi anpil Bobby.
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Old 01-27-02, 06:05 PM
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I was in the process of going once more to a deeper exploration of the writings of Jacoba and Pinomix to find the clue which can connect us to a more cohesive approach and which could sustain our efforts in the building of a dynamics which will hold the virtue of completing the work of the ones on the political field or to simply inspire everyone here in this forum. In making such statements I have no pretension to succeed in finding that clue but I believe that my findings may inspire the well intentioned to pursue the work which may lead to our collective redemption.
As you may have gathered in your observations, the source of our patriotic frustrations may be coming from the fact that the leaders have not been able to impress the more alert nor be able to respond to the needs of the masses. Meanwhile there is a confrontation from which no victor will emerge unless the adversaries agree to let the people they wish to represent be the winners. Our disappointment is therefore about their obstination to not accept and to not understand that they must first agree on
principle that the people must have priority and they shall accept to live with their success or failure if they consciously want a candidate or a leader of their choice to represent them. I do understand and I agree that a political party should not be allowed to hijack the institutions whether it is a dictatorship or a democratic government by using dishonest tactics or by using intimidation and force.I also agree that the people must be alerted of the possibility of such situation and be mobilized against it democratically if this is proven to be the case. Nevertheless and this is why I am addressing the alert citizens, "we must realize that we cannot accomplish any progress in that sense without an elevation of the spirit and a new engagement to cleanse the sociopolitical atmosphere through patriotic determination and appropriate sacrifices which importance must be proportional to the will to bring equilibrium, Unity, Economic Development, Collective Emancipation and Social justice for all in order to prevent further descent in the abyss of our collective genius, further disintegration of our collective values, to revive our national morality towards ourselves first, and towards the world community.To achieve such realistic and patriotic task we must use our historical context and the state of our socioeconomic affairs as the ultimate references.Thus I tried to understand the true efforts of Haiti Thomas, Yamaha, Jacoba Pinomix, Dorcé, Dr Love, Philosophe Noir and everyone who has been showing their frustrations just as Anonymous. This past week we have tried to process the suggestions of Jacoba to use Oriental ancient wisdom while Pinomix is trying to justify a self defense approach supported by the theories of Machiavelli and the actions of the late Malcom X. This has led me to understand that our political class has a "deep malaise" but it is a malaise which cannot be removed easily, it will take courage and realism, but others have already dealt with this malaise in other parts of the world and are today very comfortable with dealing with it successfully through democratic mechanisms and principles. They have learned to accept realism and principles as the backbone of the preservation of the human race,of a civilization,of a nation ,of a country,of a group, of a family, and of a corporation.It pleases me to say that Jacoba is invoking the Theory Z used in corporate management to sustain progress in a corporation while Pinomix is invoking the theory X. The problem is we have to go through a lot of work to reach the theory Y in principle which can prepare us for the theory Z. The Y being a step further in humanity and efficiency then the mentality of a military leader of the past who performed in theory X as it is our case if we look realistically on our historical development. the theory Z practiced by the new leaders of Hertz, Microsoft, Cocacola, CNN, Carlsberg Ikea,Volvo Toyota, to only name those few who practice the Z theory in management lead their corporations and the people who are part of these corporations to continuous success just like the Japanese corporations. The motto is let us do everything to make our people happy, let build their self appreciation and their self worthiness by showing them the pleasure and satisfaction of the job well done and the satisfaction of providing a great product and a great service to our customers and to the world. Let our people be proud of being part of this corporation.Let them know we care. Well, he who knows of FORTUNE 500 knows about the strength of the UNITED STATES Government as it is is reflected in the way they design their policies to glorify the United States and its people.
To bring a nation to success and happiness, its leaders have to bring the families which make up the nation to success and happiness not the political party which role is to design and conceive that road to success while the people are unhappy and miserable. When President Mitterrand had Michel Rocard, an articulate technocrat as a rival and political opponent from his same Socialist party he was certainly very disappointed and felt betrayed, he personally found Rocard unfit for the presidency(this is politics indeed) but he showed the necessary respect which qualifies a statesman, an honorable citizen who is respectful of the cardinal principle which must be observed by all leaders, aspiring leaders and honourable citizens. He declared to his collaborator Jean Lacouture after receiving the message:
"Rocard n'a ni la capacité, ni le caractère pour cette fonction, mais puisque les Français le veulent,ils l'auront..."
Let me then go straight to the point to satisfy the readers who are expecting an anwer to the post of my colleague and brother Anonymous
My dear friend what we must all understand before we can answer your question correctly is the the following:
Scholars hold faithfully to their respective schools of thought, this can be well examplified by the last exchanges between myself Haiti now! Jacoba, Pinomix,Yamaha and lastly yourself my friend Anonymous.They often indulge in little cross fertilization across these lines. Intellectuals as a whole tend to be isolated by their hotly defended "isms" from both the unresponsive masses and the pragmatic controllers of government and business.Perhaps forced by their relative weakness as theoreticians into a rigid adherence to whatever theory they have spoused, they may have created whether it is lavalassienne or convergente, as it were, a reverse mirror image of the pragmatism and relativism of the society in which they live. Anonymous until our politicians understand that truths reached by reason are not necessarily superior to those attained by intuition, the latter being a great aspect of the majority of our people, no disputes settled by verbal skills will be preferable to a consensus reached through feeling and national understanding of our socioeconomic affairs. They will not be able to solve the haitian problem which requires smooth cooperation and harmony through non verbal understanding in which the japanese are champions and which is sincerely a trait we may be sharing with them.Revisit the book of haitian proverbs and reflect on the interactions between a neg nan mon and a neg la vil Anonymous. Haitians just as all Africans have always seemed to lean more toward subtlety and sensitivity than to analysis, to intuition rather than reason, to pragmatism rather than theory, to organizational skills as demonstrated in a Kombit or a Koulé béton rather than great intellectual concepts as it has been demonstrated in ancient Egypt now divided in two parts Egypt, and Africa.Many still ignore the true message of Senghor when he said that le "rythme est africain et la raison est hélène" but you and I understand that Eureka Eureka does not mean , "I have created it" but rather "Enfin je comprends" n'est ce pas Anonymous?God knows how long we have been understanding those principles so what is the problem?
So if the Africans could build the first nation State of the world and achieved great advances in science which still hold the base for scientific development while other some of their scientific realizations are still unsurpassed, we cannot abandon these facts to celebrate the "packaging" of the rhythm called now "reason" in grecolatin terms and of which Pytagoras and Descartes are taking all the benefits while we continue to forget that until we recognize that rythm comes before reason we will not achieve the collective reappropriation of our "I am".Therefore all negociations whether they are on the national or the international level will fail because we are thinking backwards as in Cogito Ergo Sum instead of thinking forward just like the Japanese in terms of I am therefore I May.
You see Anonymous we have been waiting for help for quite a log time in Haiti but now that we have a chance to use that help just like the European use the Marshall Plan we are still going backward.Japanese know that they cannot survive without trade they know that they can only live by trading with others and so should we. For the present Japan with its scarce natural ressources in comparison to the powers of Europe and the United States and despite of its isolated geographical situation is considered as the most successful of modern industrial societies. How did they achieve that?Answer: Principles, Realism, vision and order.I hope this reply completes or expand your research , the efforts of Jacoba, Pinomix, Haiti thomas, Yamaha, Dorcé, Dr Love and every sincere patriot.Be true to thyself indeed.Think forward.
Vive une Haiti, unie, libre, indépendante, émancipée et prospère.
Mesi anpil frèm.
Je vous embrasse.
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