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Old 02-10-06, 03:28 PM
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news Preval Opponent in Haiti Alleges Fraud

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (Associated Press)- Rene Preval held a commanding early lead in Haiti's presidential elections Friday, with a majority of the first votes counted going to the former protege of deposed President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.
Preval, a former president seen as a champion of the poor, had 61.5 percent of 282,327 valid votes counted. Former President Leslie Manigat had 13.4 percent and businessman Charles Henri Baker 6.1 percent, according to figures released Thursday by election officials.
The electoral council did not say what percentage of the total votes cast in Tuesday's election the figures represented.
According to the United Nations, a majority of Haiti's 3.5 million eligible voters cast ballots.
Baker said he was asking the electoral council to investigate reports of fraud.
"We're starting to hear that people voted five times, 10 times, 20 times," Baker told The Associated Press. "This is a worry to us because we don't know if it happened at one center, 10 centers ... or all over the country."
Baker said he didn't know whether the alleged fraud affected the overall outcome, but he said he was "flabbergasted" that international observers have widely praised Tuesday's elections as free and fair.
Officials at Haiti's electoral office weren't immediately available for comment.
Election authorities said it might be Saturday before enough ballots are counted to draw conclusions about the race.
Manigat, however, said early returns tallied by his party members showed Preval could win a majority of votes, avoiding the need for a runoff.
Preval faces monumental tasks if he wins the presidency of this impoverished nation.
Most Haitians can't read or write, and subsist on about a dollar a day. A wave of kidnappings by heavily armed gangs has swept the capital. Amid the insecurity, assembly plants are closing, causing the losses of thousands of jobs. Donor nations are hesitant to contribute money because of a legacy of government corruption.
Preval's own tenure as president from 1996-2001 was less than stellar. His efforts at agrarian reform failed because landless peasants who received land couldn't live on the small amount they were given. He clashed with parliament over the legitimacy of the legislators who won contested elections. Human rights advocates accused him of interfering in the judicial system and of politicizing the police force.
But poor Haitians remember that Preval tried to help them. Even the smaller efforts are remembered by those whose plight was ignored by a series of governments and dictatorships.
"He built the big marketplace downtown. He fixed it so that the vendors could get out of the mud," said Yves Valea, a 70-year-old street sweeper.
When he stepped down after serving out his five-year term ? the only Haitian president to complete his term in office ? Preval went to live in his grandmother's house in Marmelade, where he devoted himself to local development projects.
Preval stood for years in the shadow of Aristide, his dominating predecessor. Aristide, who referred to Preval as his "twin," was ousted amid accusations he ordered gangsters to attack opponents and pocketed millions of dollars.
Preval made a point of saying in a recent interview that he has split with Aristide, who is in exile in South Africa.
"If I'm his 'twin,' we do not have the same mother," Preval told the AP. Preval pointed out that nothing can legally prevent Aristide from returning to Haiti, but added that he may have to face a trial.
Preval would have a fresh start in relations with Washington, said Robert Fatton, a political science professor at the University of Virginia.
"When (Preval) was president, the U.S. did not necessarily think he was a bad man, but they considered he had his hands tied up by Aristide," Fatton said. "The U.S. now believes Preval is his own man."
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We're starting to hear that people voted five times, 10 times, 20 times," Baker told The Associated Press . "This is a worry to us because we don't know if it happened at one center, 10 centers ... or all over the country.
He heard something!? Heard from whom? This guys sounds like a sore loser (and an idiot), it is difficult for what he's describing to happen, unless the person gathered 10 to 20 electoral cards. This election was monitored and had a huge turn out. I'm not a Lavalas supporter but I expected more from Charlito. It's irresponsible to make vague accusations in a time like this.
Leslie Manigat has more class:
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Respect the votes of the majority please!
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Who told you that Baker:"We're starting to hear that people voted five times, 10 times, 20 times,"
Backer come on This a looser word please do not start
give haiti the chance she deserve ok
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Nobody is perfect, he is elected because he is the best. Let us forget the past,together we can build our country.
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He heard something!? Heard from whom? This guys sounds like a sore loser (and an idiot), it is difficult for what he's describing to happen, unless the person gathered 10 to 20 electoral cards. This election was monitored and had a huge turn out. I'm not a Lavalas supporter but I expected more from Charlito. It's irresponsible to make vague accusations in a time like this.
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Respect the votes of the majority please!
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This is a personal opinion which does not represent Haitiwebs official position of not commenting on political events.
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Thank you for clarifying, I never intended to speak for the whole site. I'm better at soccer than politics anyway. I'm just expressing my personal opinion, not Haitiwebs'. I simply replied to an article, most members don't even know that they can do that. I was hoping to start a discussion.
All I hope for Haiti is that all Lavalas, Manigatist and Bakerist repect the votes of the majority! I think calling fraud with 15% of the votes counted was not the brightest idea coming a presidential candidate. This opened the door for Lavalas to come around and argue fraud as well; and it's chaos all over again.
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hmmmmmmm haitiwebs ou pe:-)
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