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Old 05-28-08, 06:37 AM
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news Un ancien porte-parole de M. Bush dénonce sa manipulation de l'information

"J'aime et j'admire toujours le président Bush. Mais lui et ses conseillers ont confondu une campagne de propagande avec le haut niveau de franchise et d'honnêteté fondamentalement nécessaire pour bâtir et préserver un soutien de l'opinion publique en temps de guerre." Ce verdict est signé Scott...
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By TiCam on 06-02-08, 09:48 PM
Titine,
I am glad you brought that up; here is a clip from a newspaper:
"Ex-Spokesman McClellan May Testify to Congress on Book's Criticisms of Bush
Democratic representative Robert Wexler wants former White House spokesman Scott McClellan to testify before Congress about some of the key issues raised in his new book, which is critical of the Bush administration. McClellan said he would testify.
Wexler said McClellan could shed valuable insight on issues being investigated by the House Judiciary Committee, such as the administration's use of pre-Iraq War intelligence, the firing of eight U.S. attorneys and the Valerie Plame identity leak.
Wexler said he believes McClellan's book is an opportunity to thwart Bush's often-used defense of claiming executive privilege. "Because Mr. McClellan has put all this information in a book," Wexler said, such privileges may not apply."
Concerning Carl Rove:
"What emerges from McClellan’s portrait is a Karl Rove who plays fast and loose with the criminal justice system and who misleads the press regularly about his own dealings, usually picking surrogates as the vehicles for his more preposterous misstatements. And that, of course, is precisely the charge that former Governor Siegelman has very convincingly laid at Rove’s doorstep.
Today’s New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/02/op...on&oref=slogin) takes a look at the Rove-Siegelman business and comes to the obvious conclusion: Karl Rove needs to be sworn and subjected to rigorous interrogation before an appropriate Congressional oversight committee.
And in this case, that means the House Judiciary Committee, which is probing allegations of politically manipulated prosecution and has already found a mound of evidence...
The House has the inherent power to arrest and hold a person who flouts its subpoenas. It’s an authority that hasn’t been used for decades. But Karl Rove offers the best case in recent memory for dusting off this power and putting it to use. The issues at stake are enormous. They include the integrity of the criminal justice process and the notion that the Congress can use the powers the Constitution vests in it to examine serious misconduct in the Executive Branch. At present, the Justice Department has reached its modern reputational low point, and the Congress is widely perceived as a constitutional hood ornament. Resolve and action are long past due."
Well, we can only hope. It seems though that the Bush administration always seemed to skate through prior events that would have cast dispersions on them.
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By Al Saqr on 06-03-08, 02:51 AM
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Al, ce livre est absolument necessaire pour les membres du congres americain.
Al, I know you understand English very well, so here is the deal: a former press secretary writing how deceptive the government is vis-a-vis the war in Irak is an invitation for congress to investigate and I believe the legislators are stepping in and putting pressure on Carl Rove right now.
Oh ok. Mais en quoi est-ce vraiment différent du CPI de Creel lors de la première guerre mondiale ? On a toujours manipulé les Américains pour partir en guerre et je ne vois pas pourquoi est-ce que cela changerait au XXIème siècle. A priori personne n'a été condamné pour ça auparavant.
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"J'ai joué un rôle mineur dans une histoire plus vaste : celle de la présidence de George Bush, qui est terriblement sortie de la route", conclut-il. Le nom de code que lui avaient donné les services spéciaux américains était "Matrix".
lol c'est un peu n'importe quoi ces noms de code ^^
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By TiCam on 06-03-08, 08:38 AM
Premiere guerre mondiale = la guerre d'Irak, c'est ta reponse?
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By Al Saqr on 06-05-08, 04:29 AM
Ma réponse est que le gouvernement, heureusement d'ailleurs, a toujours su contrôler l'information pour pouvoir atteindre ses objectifs.
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By TiCam on 06-05-08, 11:34 AM
Al,
Greenspan a ete the federal reserve board chairman c'etait a lui de nous guider sur la politique financiere du gouvernement, il n'avait donc pas acces au dossier touchant les grands evenements,
McClellan lui a ete le porte parole du gouvernement et il connait et etait temoins de tout ce qui ce passait dans le ventre de la bete; nous devons lui etre reconnaissant pour nous avoir devoile les dessous de tout ce qui se passait dans l'enceinte du pouvoir. Il nous a menti certes, mais parfois il jouait le jeu comme tous membres associes au pouvoir durant ce temps.
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